March 16, 2012

Polygamy in the U.K.

From The New Statesman
The marriage business
Jemima Khan

Jemima Khan, a U.K. media figure, is the daughter of Sir James Goldsmith, a colorful character who endorsed polyamory, and Lady Annabel Vane-Tempest-Stewart, Sir James' third wife. Jemima married Pakistani cricket hero Imran Khan, but then it turned out, surprisingly enough, that she wasn't happy living in Pakistan, so they divorced. Khan then founded a political party and is said to be "the Ron Paul of Pakistan." Jemima then took up with actor Hugh Grant for awhile. I'm not quite sure how all this is relevant to this article, but how could it, in some way, not be?

By the way, isn't the name "Jemima" raciss?
Muslim men bring 12,000 brides to Britain each year. That leaves their female peers with a dilemma — accept a “part-time husband” or turn to an agency that will check out a man’s family (and his bachelor pad) for you 
"Click? Why does everyone talk about clicking? What is this need to click? You're just too fussy," says a Pakistani auntie, reacting angrily to a twentysomething accountant's complaint that there was no chemistry between her and any of the men to whom she was introduced at a Muslim marriage event in east London. 
Marriage Asian-style is practical, contractual and, to the western mind, deeply unromantic. "The spinster crisis is an issue of modernity," preaches an energetically gesticulating man in a white prayer cap, jacket and trainers. "Success is the right attitude – no conspiracies, please. Can't blame Israel." Cue laughs from those assembled: women in hijabs seated on one side of the wood-panelled hall; men, mostly in suits, a few of them in Arab dress with beards, on the other; chaperones at the back. 
The speaker is Mizan Raja, the engaging founder of the UK-based Islamic Travels agency, who also set up the Islamic Circles community network and now presides over the east London Muslim matrimonial scene. I'm at a Practising Muslim event at Toynbee Hall in Whitechapel. According to the network's website, the event is held four times a year and is "especially geared towards those Muslims who are actually practising, ie, not a 'fasiq' – open sinner – as defined by the classical texts in sharia law". 
Arranged marriages are big business in the UK. Second- and third-generation immigrant families, with no extended family structure, limited networks and religious restrictions on acceptable ways to meet future spouses, are turning to external matchmakers for help. Mizan arranges between five and ten marriages every month through Islamic Circles, in his spare time. His day job is investment banking. By his own estimate, he has been responsible for 1,300 marriages over the past ten years. 

Isn't matchmaker a female job?
Mizan says he is meeting a need for something that is a duty in Islam. There's someone for everyone: "Even the disabled have needs" and Islamic Circles holds regular events for them. And increasingly, he says, career women are electing to become "co-wives" – in other words, to become a man's second or third wife. 
He reckons he gets between five and ten requests every week from women who are "comfortable with the notion of a part-time man". He explains: "They don't want a full-time husband. They don't have time." So couples live separately, the husband visiting his wives on a rota.

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

Jemina is a very english name - many names taken up by blacks are old, often aristo names..PG Wodehouse novels are often filled with Reggies and Tyrones.

Latisha is another one..

rec1man said...

Somali Immigrants in the USA are doing large scale polygamy and collecting welfare benefits for each wife, with each wife claiming to be a single mother

A few years ago, there was a fire in NY city, wherein 9 kids and 3 co-wives of a Somali perished

Anonymous said...

This is just what B.O. and the his regime want, to replace the American voters with a new set of "Americans" who will always vote Democrat. At least until they vote in the Muslim Brotherhood.

Whiskey said...

Part time wives collecting full time welfare. Like Hispanic young first-children ages (often teens or early twenties) that is only possible with expensive and unsustainable subsidies from the White middle class which delays its own fertility.

Women like kids, mostly. I'm sure plenty of White women would like to share Brad Pitt or George Clooney. But they can't afford that. And it leaves Joe Average White guy outside, looking to kick over the table and start his own game.

That's a huge social disaster. England depends on quirky Englishness, including weird but advanced technology (for its time), manufacturing and engineering, to make money. Lots of polygamous Muslims and part-time wives are a recipe for social disaster on an epic scale.

Brazilian said...

Jemina a Rich Liberal jewish girl who marry a Hot Muslim Athlete, but don't like Pakistan, divorce but stay with the former hubbie last name. Go back to Britain and try to nab Hugh Grant,unsuccessful...

Muslims, Britain and Polygamy.

Maya said...

Well, at least, these part time wives are described as career women, so they'll have few children and they'll take care of them. In France, all the part time wives are on welfare (which increases with every child born) and support the husband.

Anonymous said...

Brazilian said...
Jemina a Rich Liberal jewish girl

She's a quarter Jewish and raised Protestant.

Matthew said...

Wasn't it in Holland where they found that nearly every member of one ethnic group (Turks?) got their spouses by importing them? Imported spouses keep the (foreign) culutre strong, prevent assimilation, and are basically bought using the right to First World citizenship as a form of currency.

If these cultures want to continue to arrange marriages that's fine. But there are now more than enough Indians, Pakistanis, and Bengalis in the UK (and pretty much everywhere else in the Anglosphere) that they can do so in-country. Polygamy in the UK --> Anarchy in the UK.

Anonymous said...

Among the low IQ classes, polygamy is on the rise. But among high IQ classes the story is different

High Intelligence Sperm and Egg Donor Prices Rising
A recent ad quoted in this article offered 15 thousand dollars for a Stanford sperm donor who matched the desired set of qualifications. That's an astounding amount of money for a sperm donation. Egg donations are much harder to make and are riskier for the donors. Hence it is not surprising that prices for Ivy League egg donations can range as high as $50,000. A strong demand for the most preferred kinds of sperm and eggs is driving up prices.

Do a search on the internet and you'll find that there is a significant market for Ivy League egg and sperm donors. One company, Tiny Treasures, located in Massachusetts, offers "Extraordinary Ivy League [Egg] Donors". These are recent women Ivy League graduates who are offering their eggs for $8000 to $15000.

Steve Sailer said...

"Polygamy in the UK --> Anarchy in the UK."

I've got the best readers! I don't even have to do any work to develop vague ideas into jokes; they'll get my reference and figure it out for me.

Anonymous said...

Cool.

Anonymous said...

Among the low IQ classes, polygamy is on the rise. But among high IQ classes the story is different

I don't see what the point of your example of rising high-IQ egg and sperm prices is.

How is that an indication of monogamy among the "high IQ classes"?

Matt said...

Marriage Asian-style is practical, contractual and, to the western mind, deeply unromantic.

This shows up a lot in South Asian (also to a lesser extent West Asian and to a lesser extent still African) use of marriages to Westerners, of European, African and Asian descent (usually recently naturalised as citizens), as a tool to enable their immigration.

If you have a tradition where marriage is strongly a transaction to gain benefits, then using marriage as a tool to purchase a passport is not too hard. And "Green Card" style questioning to find out if people are genuinely in a relationship won't work if you "respect their culture" because their culture does not require them to really know anything much or love their prospective bride/husband much.

This is probably the biggest enabler of chain family migration in the EU at the moment.

Anonymous said...

Importing spouses from Pakistan is purely and simply a way of boosting Pakistani ethnic genetic interests in the UK as far as possible, by increasing the critical mass of Pakistanis to the fullest extent.

Anonymous said...

"This is just what B.O. and the his regime want, to replace the American voters with a new set of "Americans" who will always vote Democrat."

Do muslims vote democrat? I know they are generally socially conservative, but do they vote with their wallets for more gimmedats?

Anonymous said...

One company, Tiny Treasures, located in Massachusetts, offers "Extraordinary Ivy League [Egg] Donors". These are recent women Ivy League graduates who are offering their eggs for $8000 to $15000.

$15,000 for one of Lena Chen's ova? What a bargain!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lena_Chen

Anonymous said...

Do muslims vote democrat? I know they are generally socially conservative
in the UK they are almost always labor -Tony Blair was one vote away from passing a law that would have made it a crime to criticize Islam.

Anonymous said...

By the way, isn't the name "Jemima" raciss?

How can you forget Jemima Puddleduck?

rec1man said...

Muslims vote democrat, because the democrats are soft on islamic terrorism, whereas Republicans, thanks to their christian conservative basis is anti-islamism

Down Valley Scum said...

I believe Jemima is the Hebrew word for dove or pretty dove

Matthew said...

"Importing spouses from Pakistan is purely and simply a way of boosting Pakistani ethnic genetic interests in the UK as far as possible, by increasing the critical mass of Pakistanis to the fullest extent."

In the case of Pakistanis in the UK it's often a way of importing close relatives, given that so many of the Pakistani marriages are between first cousins.

More generally in such marriages the immigrant partner is typically from a Third World country, with the First World half of the couple using residence in the First World as a form of capital, in lieu of assets (money and/or physical attractiveness) they otherwise lack.

No one leaves England to marry their loved one in Pakistan. No American moves to Russia to live with his Russian bride. The direction is always Third World ==> First World.

The West needs to put a stop to this. Start charging $20k or so to import a bride, perhaps refundable if the marriage doesn't work, and bar them from using welfare for a decade or so.

Anonymous said...

The West is on the final flightpath into Suicide City.

It's just as simple as that.

The only question is to what extent the "governments", who actively import third world immigrants, do it for perveted ideological reasons, vs electoral manipulation, vs bribery, or, as I suspect, all three reasons.

Anon.

Matthew said...

"I've got the best readers! I don't even have to do any work to develop vague ideas into jokes; they'll get my reference and figure it out for me."

Yes, Polygamy in the UK is a sex pistol aimed right at the heart of Western Civilization.

Anonymous said...

I guess anything that triggers the fertility rate of minorities will trigger Steve Sailer's ire.

So what if the matchmaker is male? So long as he continues to set up Muslims and have them procreate, then he is awesome, haha. I drink the tears of white people crying over their impending minority status.

Charlotte Allen said...

"Jemima" is a biblical name, the name of the most beautiful of Job's daughters.

Maya said...

"$15,000 for one of Lena Chen's ova? What a bargain!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lena_Chen"

Hey, that girl is smart enough to get into Harvard and also surprisingly cute. After that, it's up to you to instill proper values in your child. I bet her parents are actually proud, or, if they are not, that was the whole point.

Anonymous said...

"I drink the tears of white people crying over their impending minority status."

Impending?

Aren't there a billion each of the Indians and Chinese?

When have white people EVER been a majority?

Strange triumphalism from the ignorant races!

Anonymous said...

Hey, that girl is smart enough to get into Harvard and also surprisingly cute.

She is also a profoundly broken girl. How much of that is in her genes? There should be a 70% discount for ova from Womyn's Studies majors.

Anonymous said...

When have white people EVER been a majority?

Whites were a plurality in 1950 and 1900.

I don't know if one race has ever been in the majority.

Liesel said...

Relevance of Hugh Grant to all of this....who knew my interest in Hollywood Gossip would ever apply here:

Hugh Grant & Liz Hurley are a big proponent of polyamory. Grant & Hurley had an open relationship. When he got caught with a a hooker about 10 years ago, and about 10 years into his relationship with Hurley, the talking heads gasped at how forgiving she was to stay with him, maybe she had self esteem issues etc.... But he really hadn't cheated on her since they had an agreement.

They break up & stay 'close friends' i.e. with benefits. Hurley gets knocked up by billionaire Stephen Bing who denies paternity so she goes off to marry a rich Indian man (who takes on a paternal role.) All the while she is boffing Grant ( and her husband is having fun sid epeices as well.) She gets divorced but is still as 'close friends' with her ex-husband as she is with Grant. Her ex-husband even stays at her house 'to see her son.' Hurley now takes up with Shane Warne, an Australian cricketer.

During Hurley's open marriage to the Indian, Hugh Grant hooked up with Jemima, who may or may not have liked 'the agreement.'

Whew! Basically, there is a whole lot of bed swapping among the welathy English.

ben tillman said...

No one leaves England to marry their loved one in Pakistan. No American moves to Russia to live with his Russian bride. The direction is always Third World ==> First World.


Russia is Second World, not Third.

Matthew said...

"Whites were a plurality in 1950 and 1900. I don't know if one race has ever been in the majority."

Are we counting whites or Causasians? Caucasian =/= White

White is essentially synonymous with European. Caucasians reach deep into Central and South Asia.

Anonymous said...

Are we counting whites or Causasians?

Whites, that's why I said "whites" not "Caucasian".